If Lou Reed was a prophet when he wrote "What Becomes a Legend Most", his
lyrics would have said to all the great British singers, "Play with Blair
Booth". Not only is Booth the best musician Terry Hall has ever worked
with (and this includes Rachel Welch's backing band); she's also a strong vocalist whose talents have graced many vital records (particularly the Associates' swan song, Wild and Lonely). Along with
Billy Mackenzie (whose song "Those First Impressions" she covered so beautifully on The Affectionate Bunch: Volume 1), Booth has added her talents to notable work by Johnny
Thunders, Marc Almond, and even Nick Heyward . After spending the first
half of the nineties as the female presence in the fascinating rap group Oui
3 (a logical extension of the old Sugar Hill Sound, and a precursor to the
Fugees), Booth has upped the eclecticism factor a notch with solo work that
stretches the borders of contemporary dance and pop. Her latest,
Blair, contains one of my favorite song titles ("Lie Back & Be
Boring") and one of the more addictive pop gems to dance
through my head this year ("2 Late 4 Love"). While Terry Hall fanatics may find it hard to believe she'll top her work with Terry, Blair, and Anoushka (the most consistent record in Hall's
career), Blair proves that her talents are prodigious and her future has no
bounds.
The following interview was conducted via email in the rather nasty month of
September, 2001. It is fitting, as her music is filled of juxtapositions, that
she was a total delight to correspond with in that unpleasant period of the
year.
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Splendid: Could you elaborate a bit on your background in music
before Terry Hall asked you to join his post-Colourfield group (Terry,
Blair, and Anoushka)? Were you already a fairly seasoned musician by
then?
Blair Booth: I started playing piano at the age of six. I didn't
discover my voice until the age of eleven. My parents were of an artistic
nature, with my father having a doctorate in music, and my mother was an
artist. Although my father was what was known then as a
"legitimate" musician (remember, we're talking about the 1970s), he had
always loved, and in his earlier days played, jazz. The only problem was that
he couldn't afford to bring up a family, even if it was only one child to
support. When he became chairman of the music department in Reno, Nevada
USA, he endeavored to hire those who were legitimate. So he scoured the
casinos in Reno and the Gospel choirs that were around at the time. I
suppose he felt that it would be a benefit to me if I were to be involved
with what was termed as such a legitimate crowd. I sang in various jazz
festivals and was hired as a backing singer at the age of 17 for a not so
well known artist, Catharine Chase, at the MGM Grand Casino. The money I
received funded my venture to London. During this time I was also very much involved in the theatre, which is probably why I've seen so many interviews that state "Terry Hall teamed
up with an American actress"!
Splendid: Have you kept the demo that helped Terry see what you
could bring to his post-Colourfield project? Were the songs from the demo
much like those actually used by TBA?
Blair Booth: Not only have I kept the demo, but I still have the
old sequencer MC500 that I used to write and arrange the songs for the TBA
album! The thing is, Terry never gave me a demo of his songs. They were all
done from scratch, and I submitted many tracks to him that I thought he
would not only like, but be able to contribute to in the lyrical sense.
AUDIO: Terry, Blair and Anoushka's
"Fishbones and Scaredy Cats"
Splendid: What makes "Fishbones and Scaredy Cats" your favorite of the
TBA songs? And I always tend to ask artist this, but do you have any cats
of your own? Do they, or any pet you may have, make it hard to fully enjoy a
career where you must constantly travel or tour to promote product?
Blair Booth: I loved "Fish Bones & Scaredy Cats" because it was
such a chastisement of Terry and his somewhat paranoid character! I mean,
(Question) What about the Fishbones? (Answer) They might choke us!
(Question) What about the windows? (Answer) They're all closed! (Question)
What about the neighbours? (Answer) They're still with us! (Question) What
about the Fishbones? (Answer) There you go! Scaredy Cat! I think that as
naïve and silly this song may seem, there was a lot more to it than one is
supposed to realize, and that, in effect, is its charm! I must say, Terry had
a few hang ups that were made apparent to me! Oh, and I did have two cats,
one a chinchilla Persian, the other a black mongrel. Sadly, both died of
feline leukemia.
Splendid: As baffled as I remain by TBA's lack of commercial
success, it also surprised me that "Missing" (despite being my favorite song
on the record) was chosen as the lead single over your wonderful, more
radio-friendly duet with Terry, "Sweet September Sacrifice". As I've always
imagined Terry as someone who shuns the easy route to success, did the great
success of his "Thinking About You" almost work against that song?
Blair Booth: Yeah, I think at the time "Missing" sounded a bit like
the theme to an Australian soap here called Neighbours! I loved
"Sweet September Sacrifice", even though the musical direction came from
Terry. My all time favourite Hall track is "Thinking of You".
Splendid: Given its proximity to Vegas, did your Reno, Nevada
childhood roots provide any influence or inspiration for the music and
arrangement behind songs like "Just Go" or TBA's choice cover of "Love Will
Keep Us Together"? Also, was "Love Will Keep Us Together" chosen after the
group already knew it was breaking apart? And lastly, do you know if your
Nevada upbringing had anything to do with the name choice of Terry's next
band, Vegas?
Blair Booth: Yes, and what an astute question! I think that at
the time (and remember, Terry had just had a kid) that he was very much
influenced by his home life. I clearly remember him saying to me that he'd
seen Andrew Lloyd Webber's Cats and really loved it. As I came from
not only a cabaret circuit, but also musical theatre, he embraced the
concept and union between two. I always loved the Captain & Tennille, and remember watching their TV show in the states. I reckon I was the first
to buy "Love Will Keep Us Together". Sadly, they broke apart -- and eventually
the same fate happened to Terry. Odd coincidence that he liked a song
that was such a favourite of mine. I loved doing the arrangement!
Splendid: Have you done any pop duets since then, and is there any
current artist you'd love to trade vocals with?
AUDIO: Terry, Blair and Anoushka's
"Sweet September Sacrifice"
Blair Booth: The only other duet I've done besides Terry Hall's
"Sweet September Sacrifice" was a duet with Marc Almond. The song
was "Madame de la Luna" on the album Enchanted! I loved working with
Marc -- I've always really liked gay men -- and was thrilled that the spec was
to sound angelic! I hope I fulfilled it!
Splendid: When TBA disbanded, you provided vocal support for some
other veterans of the British pop scene, like Billy Mackenzie and Nick
Heyward. Did Bob Sargeant, producer for much of TBA, help get you this
work, or did your work with Terry Hall open doors for you?
Blair Booth: Absolutely. The Nick Heyward project came about
because Nick couldn't get a record deal. Bob Sargeant and his manager
thought that the only way for Nick to obtain his deal was if he had a band
around him. Get this -- nobody wanted to be in the band! Record deal or no
record deal! You see, a lot of session musicians pride themselves on the
fact they are free agents and nobody controls them. So through default, I
ended up signing a substantial deal with Sony Records, split down the middle!
I was happy...until I realized I wasn't meant to do anything. I spent a year
at Eel Pye Studios in Richmond, England (Pete Townshend's studio) learning
the art of cooking! (Mainly how to do a fine white wine and mushroom gravy
for roast chicken and not have it lumpy! Actually, I learned more about
drinking white wine than I did gravy!) I did however get to see The Who's
master tapes and the famous guitar where the whammy bar severed Pete's arm!
Billy MacKenzie was quite another story, though. I had done an album called
UNO. Eric Claremontet had got funding for this album and he had many
guest singers, of whom Billy was one. I was working for a charity a couple
of years before the Terry Hall album and he rang me saying that one day we'd
work together. I had been seeing a Swiss programmer called Philipp Erb, who
had been offered the job of programming Billy's Wild & Lonely album
for Circa Records. Billy contacted me again, but a few years down the line, and
asked if I'd arrange one of his tracks. This I did, and not only arranged
his album but became his "mermaid" as well.
Splendid: Mermaid?
Blair Booth: I guess kind of an inside joke! See, I'm Piscean, born
in March. I also had at the time these very long golden and curly hair extentions -- a bit like
Jerry Hall. Anyway, I know what you're getting at! We quite liked each
other!
Splendid: After TBA came the wildly different Oui 3, and despite
this group's commercial success, it seems fewer guest stints came your way.
In terms of supporting roles on other artists' records, have you found your
ability to cover many styles of music helpful in the business world of pop,
or are you generally pigeonholed by the powers-that-be into whatever style
you're performing at the moment?
Blair Booth: Once you've signed in blood to a record company, they
own you. I had been asked to do many things, one of which was a TV show
with the Beloved in Barcelona. I wanted to go so badly, as I had
never been there before, but was denied to do so by management and the
record company. As and artist, I just love music. I hate when people ask
me what influences me because it is so wide-ranging, from Vivaldi to Hendrix
to Lee Scratch Perry to Andrew Lloyd Webber to Massive Attack to The Mamas and The
Papas to Parliament to Led Zeppelin. You get the gist? I think as a
musician, you decipher every note in order to learn the art from other
artists. In consequence you can most likely
write or arrange in many different genres.
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Splendid: Video is seen by some as a mere way to sell the product,
but I've always thought it could enhance a band's music, particularly
message songs like "Poison" or Oui 3's all-too-relevant adaptation of "For
What It's Worth". Have you been pleased by the videos you've done, and do
you think you can achieve as much from them as from live performance? Also,
will you use Public Domain Productions to produce online video as well as online
music?
AUDIO: Southern Comfort Radio Edit of
Oui 3's "For What it's Worth"
Blair Booth: I think that videos are meant to enhance the music,
but in a lot of ways fall short in doing so. Sometimes you may get a third
party in that really doesn't have a clue about the group or the music. And
then, of course, you have all the politics of the record company to deal with
as well. Case in point: I felt passionately about our first 7" single, a
cover of "For What It's Worth". It had been my idea to take what was
originally a protest song
of the sixties and juxtapose it with some of the current events of the
nineties -- in particular the Gulf War. I felt that the track was and still
is as relevant now as when it was written. Anyway, MCA hired a
company to do the artwork. For some bizarre reason, and still to this day I
can't figure it out, the designer wanted a drawn picture of an African hut with
a little figure in the background. I could not figure for the life of me
what this had to do with our single. I remember him saying that he was
thinking farther ahead than I, and that there was a whole concept behind the
African hut. I jokingly said, "Oh, I get it! By the time we get the album
out we'll have an entire village"!
Splendid: In "For What It's Worth", there's a brilliant, almost
punk-like chant for peace ("Hold your fire, put down that weapon/You'll never get to
Heaven with that AK47"), to help the song evoke not only sixties
protest and a politicized Sugar Hill Records band, but also bands like the
Clash. Since hip hop and dance are probably best at incorporating other
genres within them, is this the easiest genre you can fit your wide-ranging
song ideas into?
Blair Booth: Very interesting, because by the time we had started
our next album, Threedom, it was Phillip's interest in and the influence of
Punk that forged what we had hoped would be a new direction. There was a
slight movement in fashion and music in the mid '90s called "New Wave of
NewWave". It didn't really take off, but Philipp had secured Mathew Ashman
(Adam & The Ants/Bow Wow Wow -- Malcolm McClaren's brain child) to play
guitar, which cost all of
us far more than we had expected. Here's a funny one: the chant ("Stop,
Hold Your Fire, Put Down Your Weapon, You'll Never Get To Heaven With An
AK47!") was Trevor's idea! And initially I thought it wouldn't work. God,
how you can be so wrong! What a hook!
Splendid: Oui 3 is the first band I ever heard whose rise to
success was thwarted by the misclassification of a single ("For What It's
Worth") as a full-length. Since Threedom is as playful as the first,
it didn't seem to dampen your creative spirits, but was the band a bit
crushed by this bit of bad luck (which kept the song from becoming a Top Ten
hit)? Also, did that mishap have any role in the band limiting future
singles to just three or four remixes, as opposed to the seven on "For What It's
Worth"?
Blair Booth: My spirits were really dampened! In fact, I called my
lawyer! Seems that the BPI rules are that you can have one single with as
many remixes as you want, but not exceeding 25 minutes. If, however, you have
a B-side, which we did -- a track called "OUI Love You" -- the rules are that
you can have only a further two remixes. As it stands, and the CDs now are
quite a rarity, we had a total of five tracks on the single of "For What
It's Worth", and
entered the album charts at 50! How the record company did not check the
ruling, especially as the MD at the time was Chairman of BPI, is beyond me!
Trevor used to say, "We always give value for money!" We entered the charts
at 28 on a Sunday, by Monday we were banned, by the next week we remained in
the top 20s with only 40% of vinyl and cassette sales counted! A few weeks
later the CD was repressed, with four tracks and poor packaging. Retailers
would not delete the five track single so fans bought the banned one! Yes, we
were robbed of a top ten hit. But we recovered with "Break From The Old
Routine".
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Splendid: Of the two Oui 3 albums, your singing plays a more
pronounced part in Threedom. Was there an explicit motivation behind
more evenly integrating vocals with the raps?
Blair Booth: My singing was quite a bone of contention with Trevor.
MCA had, however, wanted more vocals, and our new management at the time did
also. I did try to encourage Trevor to sing, but it's hard work when
someone really is predominantly monotone.
AUDIO: Little Ba Bas' mix of Oui 3's
"Joy of Living"
Splendid: Also, with Threedom, Oui 3 were branching out in
other areas, like the electric guitar surging through "Caring '90s". Since
your voice often evokes Grace Slick as much as or more than Tracey Thorn,
have you ever thought about experimenting with more rock-oriented music?
Blair Booth: I always loved rock music and grew up on a diet of
Led Zeppelin, Hendrix and Aerosmith I think my favourite film of all time has
got to be Spinal Tap! Seriously, though, there was most definitely a
concerted effort to incorporate guitar, and it was at Philipp's request that
Mathew Ashman be brought in.
Splendid: Having written songs for over a decade, was there ever a
time where you wanted, like Pessoa ("If only I could go back/To when I wrote
old love letters/Without thinking/How ridiculous?"), to be uncritical of
your own work-in-progress and put total trust in whatever inspiration that
was guiding you?
Blair Booth: I'm afraid I am severely critical and an absolute
perfectionist. And most likely too hard on myself. Sometimes I fear
starting to write a new track in case I am disappointed with the outcome.
It is very hard for me to remain objective.
Splendid: This question is along the same lines, and seems to me a
possible downside to owning your own studio. Have you ever written a song
that you now think, in hindsight, was great, but ruined it with endless
tinkering and over-effort?
Blair Booth: Absolutely! You can kill a song dead! And again,
because I won't let go, I keep battling on. Then, after time has passed, I
realize that the first version was fresh and had spark. It's so true that
in order to bake the cake you need the ingredients! I get very frustrated
at constantly searching, creating new sounds that inspire me, but this takes
up so much time and tinkering that it would probably be better if I just
accompanied
myself with piano.
Splendid: Do you have any interest in forming a new band, or do
you have less interest in collaboration these days?
Blair Booth: I loved to perform, but hated touring. Everything
goes nuts and you go nuts with it. I always thought that tour managers have
the hardest task; they are what I call a glorified baby sitting service. I
don't have plans at present but who knows?
Splendid: Right now, my favorite song on Blair is
probably "2 Late 4 Love", a song powered by a muscular
keyboard riff as classic in dance circles as, say, a Chuck Berry guitar lick is
in rock camps. Do you find it easier to accept
the primacy and power behind certain beats, even when they can't even feign
to be new? Another way of asking this question: do you think simplicity is
where it's at? Another great strength behind "2 Late 4 Love" was the way
this phrase -- "You can dance, you can dance on the night train" -- is pictured
so vividly when set against the music. It called to mind a Chantal Akerman
musical from the '70s, or even Gene Kelly stuff. The whole world
started swaying in technicolor, a feeling I get whenever a dance song just
hits me right. How do you settle upon the final product for such songs? Do
you ever test them in clubs, house parties, or on boardwalks?
AUDIO: Blair Booth's "2 Late 4
Love"
Blair Booth: I am so pleased that you like "2 Late 4 Love". Vitaminic, a music web
site, has not only placed the track in their "recommended position" and
"charts", but is using the track on a CD compilation. Some 15,000 are to be
distributed to universities and campuses throughout the UK. I think the
trick is to make song and its arrangement sound really simple, when in fact
it is quite complicated. I believe strongly that a song should maintain
interest throughout the duration of hearing it -- yet at the same time you
don't want the track to sound incongruous or bitty. It's quite an art,
getting all these components to gel. For me, the thing that I like best
about "2 Late 4 Love" is the very close harmony verses and choruses. It
sounds very simple but is in fact very difficult to do. I think it has a
really nice house groove and I like the quirkiness of the vocal. I love the
line, "You can crash, you can bang on your bass drum, my hearing's good! I
heard where you're coming from!"
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Splendid: "Poison (Radium Mix)" is another personal favorite from
the Blair record, and shows, as Oui 3 consistently did, that you
don't flinch from confronting issues that are in the daily papers. So far,
politics has only enhanced, not diminished, the artistic nature of your
work; be that as it may, is there any issue so important to you that you
don't care if it makes your music less enjoyable, as long as it gets heard?
Blair Booth: It has to be the environment. I love animals,
plants, the Earth. It angers me so greatly that people still cannot figure
out that when something is gone it can't be got back. Man has such greed, and is
so careless in protecting the future. I feel especially for animals, as they
have no voice and are completely at our mercy. God, how I wish things would
change, but people don't want to lose their creature comforts -- just the
creatures.
Splendid: Anti-capitalist sentiment seems to have great appeal
among artists. In your case, I was curious if any of this comes from having
seen so much disparity via your tours and travels, or from being in a
business where the powers-that-be screw over those who not-be at such an
extreme level...
Blair Booth: You know, the thing is, is that I am not
anti-capitalist per se, and I firmly believe in democracy. I have most
certainly seen depravity, especially in Morocco, that I found difficult to
bear. But to add to this, what I really found disturbing was how wealthy
the drugs barons were. To me, the climate of fear, hypocrisy and corruption
was also unbearable. I don't feel that the philosophies of other political
movements have the answers, either. Perhaps capitalism is the best of a bad
lot. I do think we need to think globally and take responsibility for our
actions and reduce our exploits.
Splendid: With TBA and Oui 3, you happened to be at the
forefront of both the "kitsch" and the "male rapper/female vocalist"
movement. Are there any new "sounds" or movements now in the underground
that intrigue you, and seem worth exploring?
Blair Booth: Yeah, Drum and Bass, which I thought would be the
very next big thing. But it didn't happen. Shame... What I love about it is
the fact that it uses technology in a way that is unexpected -- complex and
rhythmically fascinating, yet has a groove I can sit back and flop to! And
of course, slow it down by half and you have one of the other musical genres
that I love: dub and reggae!
Splendid: Are there any long-term plans for Public Domain
Productions? And are you presently involved, or interested in,
discovering and/or producing new artists?
Blair Booth: I loved the idea of having a production company
called Public Domain because I've undergone so many lawsuits and
really have an understanding of the meaning! Also, I like the idea, like the
Internet, that it is meant for all. The production company is in its
embryonic stage, but I do have great hopes and aspirations for it!
Splendid: I love the story of how your hairdresser helped you find
Anoushka when you and Terry were looking for a guitarist. Has there been any
more great tips or advice given to you by hairdressers, and do you think
that is the quintessential daytime job for today's aspiring prophets?
Blair Booth: My favourite question for last! I've had some very
poor tips and advice from hairdressers -- that I can attest to! Maybe me
finding Anoushka was just a one-off, though personally I wouldn't call her a
musician! I don't think I'll be heading down to my nearest to find the latest
talent. But, hey, you get noticed!
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Theodore Defosse was cut out of the Harry Potter movie, much to his chagrin.
[ graphics credits :: header/pulls - george zahora | photos - provided by blair booth :: credits graphics ]
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